Full buffalo Antares for your consideration. Extremely grippy, full buffalo leather! This saddle features an 18″ seat, long flaps 4AB which measure 14″ x 14″ and a tree that measures 4.5″ .. this saddle will fit a lot of the bigger, chunky ones! It will likely rock on a flat backed horse. Saddle sells with Antares saddle cover. Trial it today!